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What is Jigglypuff? And Is She Really Killing Melee?

by devaccess



When you first boot-up a new Smash Game, there are probably a few characters you’re drawn to immediately.

There’s Mario, you know him. Maybe you pick Link, he’s always there.

But there’s one character that most players don’t really touch. The helium voiced, narcoleptic pink ball of destruction herself: Jigglypuff.

Written by: Daniel Rosen (@Daniel_Rosen)
Produced, Hosted & Edited by: Miles Hackett (@miles_hackett)
Shot by: Matt Massey
Illustrated animations by: Christian Pearson (@Chr_Pearson)
Script edited by: Sean Wetselaar (@SeanWetselaar)

Footage courtesies:

Sonic Fox and Rick Fox shout-out to the furries clip

Courtesy:@ SonicFox5000 (Twitter)

Jigglypuff song

Courtesy: TV Tokyo

Titanic: The Legend Goes On

Courtesy: JonTronShow – JonTron (YouTube)

Jigglypuff in Pokemon Red & Blue

Courtesy: Nintendo / The Pokemon Company

Super Smash Bros. 64 – Jigglypuff

Courtesy: Basileous Productions (YouTube)

Isai vs. Moyashi (Apex 2014)

Courtesy: Apex

Nicolas Cage “Face/Off” Laughing scene

Courtesy: Paramount Pictures / Touchstone Pictures

History of JIGGLYPUFF in Competitive Super Smash Bros. (64, Melee, Brawl, Wii U) ft. CDK

Courtesy: False Swipe Gaming (YouTube)

Plup vs. Hbox Top 8 @ EVO 2016

Courtesy: EVO

Super Smash Bros 64 – My Main is Jigglypuff part 2

Courtesy: The Retro Gamers (YouTube)

“That’s not very nice!”

Courtesy: Riley N. (YouTube)

Mang0 vs. Armada MLG Anaheim 2014

Courtesy: Major League Gaming

Mang0 vs. M2K @ Revival of Melee 2009

Courtesy: Alukard via Pakman (YouTube)

Ray Liotta laughing scene from Goodfellas

Courtesy: Warner Bros.

Hbox vs. M2K @ CEOGaming Daytona 2018
Courtesy: Twitch.tv/CEOGaming

Hbox vs. Leffen Top 8 @ EVO 2018

Courtesy: EVO

Axe vs. Hbox @ Smash Summit 6, Losers Final

Courtesy: Beyond the Summit – Smash

Hungrybox vs. Zain @ Smash Summit 7, Melee Quarterfinals

Courtesy: Beyond the Summit – Smash

Westball vs. Mango @ Mayhem June 2015, Grand Finals

Courtesy: MacDsmash (YouTube)

Is Jigglypuff and Wobbling Killing Melee? Should they be banned?

Courtesy: William Hjelte (YouTube)

Armada’s History with Hating Puff

Courtesy: Armada (YouTube)

Hungrybox vs. Plup Grand Finals – NOODS NOODS NOODS – Oakland Edition

Courtesy: ESA Smash (YouTube)

Plup on taking a break from Melee
Courtesy: Twitch.tv/Plup

Hbox vs. Plup EGLX 2018 Winners Finals

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Hungrybox vs. SFAT Press Start Ending: Hype Edition

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Hungrybox vs. Armada @ EVO 2015

Courtesy: EVO

Axe on Jigglypuff and Hbox
Courtesy: Twitch.tv/AZ_Axe

Hungrybox vs.s Armada @ DreamHack Winter 2015, Grand Finals

Courtesy: DreamHack (YouTube)

Hungrybox vs. Leffen @ Smash Summit 7, Grand Finals

Courtesy: Beyond the Summit – Smash

Mang0 vs. M2K @ Apex 2014, Losers Final

Courtesy: Team Spooky (YouTube)

12: Jigglypuff Smash Bros. Ultimate

Courtesy: Super Smash Bros. (YouTube)

Getting Good at Ultimate – Hungrybox Smash Ultimate Highlights

Courtesy: Hungrybox (YouTube)

The Best Jigglypuff Rest Play Ever in Smash Bros. Ultimate

Courtesy: ZeRo (YouTube)

EVO 2015 – Hungrybox beats Mango Crowd Reaction

Courtesy: SmashPractice (YouTube)

Hungrybox vs. Armada @ Smash’n’Splash 3
Courtesy: Twitch.tv/GamersHQTV

Hungrybox vs. Armada EVO 2016

Courtesy: EVO

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45 comments

beefymcwhatnow April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

“Grrrr pink singing ball bad”

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KK64 April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

"Puff dittos would be boring"

Right because fox dittos every other game is 'fun'

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Storm Soul April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

mango got to number 1 placings with puff and THAN changeged not before he found sucess.

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Rachel Davies April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

If you don’t like watching puff play then don’t watch the matches she is playing in. I personally enjoy watching puff.

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Hyp3r Bean April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I mean, as a proud puff main myself, I've had some terrible experiences with people getting angry and quitting on me and screaming at me in friendlies for no reason except that I play puff. Honestly, it feels like people immediately discredit my skill in melee and ultimate because I play her.

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CameronTheNinja April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

i think puff is fine, there is literally only 1 player good with puff, and not every game played with puff is really slow, puff can do rush-down so i don't see the issue that would cause puff to be banned

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animanics April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

If your doing something highly competitive, a viable strategy is all well and good. When you're absolutely trying to win, this is where you pull out things like wobbling and trying to stall out the time. If you're trying to have something be a spectator sport, a clear line gets drawn between the ability to win and entertainment. If people tune in to melee tournaments expecting entertaining gameplay and this is the reason they watch, doing the exact opposite is a way to kill that viewership. If they're there to watch the best tactics and best characters battle it out, then doing that shouldn't have any effect.

So the question here is, why are people surprised that people don't want to watch something that isn't enjoyable to watch? When you host a massive public tournament, you're doing it to bring in a crowd and you're telling people "this is entertaining". When it's not, they get pissed. If you're looking to see who is the best of the best for the sake of pure competition you would host a tournament in private because why would a crowd matter for that?
If you want the massive viewership AND highly competitive scene, it needs to be realized that both of those don't go hand-in-hand and comprises need to be made. Otherwise you get a tournament where every single person picks ice climbers and it becomes "who can wobble first". So while it's inexcusable that people are treating someone like shit, it's perfectly reasonable for people to not want to watch something that is no longer entertaining when it's advertised as such.

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Alex Grachek April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Looked at the title calling Jiggs a “she” and only came here to see how the comment section would react.

EDIT: Interesting… not as bad as I thought.

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JoBleau29OW April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Fox is killing melee

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YourFavouriteColor April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I love how everyone is fine with a cheap as shit optimized fox who has a tier unto himself, but when someone legitimately dismantles the metagame everyone gets butthurt.

I think HBOx is really fun to watch. I think he plays with a lot of finesse and it is satisfying to watch him make fox cheesers eat shit

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ChinaChamp April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Y’all gotta stop acting like it’s a hot take to say Fox sets can be boring.

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Tristen R. April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Ah yes. This character doesn't play the way we want it to and we don't like it. Time for the ban hammer I guess

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Blazing Scorpiez April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

DIE i say,
!

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Blazing Scorpiez April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Puff haters DIE

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Jesús Alberto Martínez Pérez April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

The thing is that no one wants to improve their metagame in order to get better and beat HBOX game style and. HBOX took all disadvantages of a floaty light character and condensed into a efficient gamestyle. Mang0 was a jigglypuff main and did demonstrate the true potential of the character. Even prince Abu is a good puff's main representative. Isn't about how fast can input your controller, is about being consistent and HBOX has been the most in the recent times.

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Dankuro Kato April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Boring to watch / play, zoners and campers basically, if Melee players dont like this, it still is stratregy, it still is viable, different from wobbling, that doesnt have counter play, besides, Melee community is one of the most toxic out there, i Love Smash and always will, but this game overstayed its welcome way more than it should

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iRaspberry April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

?

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JoeDan54 April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Random JonTron cameo ftw looool

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Sam Williams April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Hey basketball fans: isn't this basically what the Badgers do? Slow the game down, and force you to play their style of ball?

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Guy Lloyd April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Leffen is the one who doesn't deserve ANY human rights, at all.

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madrocts April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I don't understand the shit HungryBox
Mew2King fucking ledge camps when he's up one life. And if you don't believe me, Westballz gave him shit for it when he did it against him in tournament.
But when Mew2King does it it's godlike or optimal. When HungryBox does it it's toxic and should be banned

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The Matt April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Salty losers, every one of them. Hating something because they can't beat it. Hating something because it doesn't fit their definition of how the game "should" be played. Wanting to ban something because it's too powerful. I know the Melee community is toxic, but this a level of sore loserness I thought I'd never see, even from them. Rock on, HBox

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Random commenter, pissed for no reason April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I’ve never seen so many people who don’t play melee have such great opinions on melee.

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I Hate All Of You April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I always play as jigglypuff and its not surprising that i win each time

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Pesky April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I mean to be fair, everyone does hate jigglypuff.

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J Zahk April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

it's fun that they bash puff as boring when basically they made melee a " Super Fox vs Marth brothers"

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Jigsjigz April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Jigglypuff is awesome and thats ?OK?

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Psydank April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Honestly I love seeing different uncommon play styles at high levels. Hence why I like HBox and find Fox/Falco ditto fights boring.

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dashthehero192 April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Leffin isn’t a great model to base and argument on but you have to understand like the game is old and still is being watched by dedicated fans however if every finals is floaty garbage then it’s not exciting nor different so hbox shooting himself and everyone else in the foot cause if there is no money from sponsors then there is no pro melee

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Raekwon Jenkins April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

HBox is actually the main reason I got into watching professional Melee. HBox nor Puff should be banned from the community just because he found his play style. You can’t ban someone for their play styles because not everyone wants to play the game the same

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Giantalfe April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

She?

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Blazing Scorpiez April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

She is my main

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Blazing Scorpiez April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Jigglypuff is the best i dont care if people hate jigglypuff jigglypuff rules rules

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TechTV April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Do you have any idea what narcoleptic means?

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Coaltergeist April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

"if hbox kills melee, then it didn't deserve to live. Adapt or die"
-some handsome mf on reddit

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Nicolás Martínez April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

People complaining sound like They are weak minded

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Shortbus Legend April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I heckin love puff

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papa tetris April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Puff has an extreme disadvantage state. You CAN play around it. Banning puff solves nothing.

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FudTron5000 April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I stopped watching melee because puff gf were too boring to watch

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Ed April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

"I'm tired of fighting Jigglypuff, I have to fight him every tournament" Try not playing fox at tournament and then say that shit. That's all hbox sees, fox fox fox. Is it any surprise he can beat fox players now with the amount of fox MU experience he has? Salty fucks like Leffen, Armada, and plup, they all play fox lmao why do they play fox? because he's the best character in the game. They're tier whores and when a single puff player (because Hbox is the only puff that places that high) threatens their #1 position because they can't get free wins from playing the best character they just blame puff. They blame her, make her out to be the best and broken and then call for a ban. Melee players are fucking children that are crying over not getting their way. Hbox is dominating them because he's a better player. And they just keep giving him more and more MU experience. And even then Fox is considered a counter to Puff which truly shows you how good Hbox is.

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YukitoOnline April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

You Smash Community peepz consider SMASH as a fighting game.. Then all fighting style is legal nothing to complain about, just git gud and find a counter..

If you guys are still complaining then SMASH isnt a fighting game at all..

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Nob the Knave April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

No. Man-babies who need constant flitting movement and flashing lights to stay entertained and get mad when their caveman brain gets out smarted instead of "out-reflexed" are what is detrimental to the game scene.

If you cant adapt and deal with your opponent, then that's a you problem.

Doesnt matter if you get out fought or out thought, winning is winning.

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Cyber Shark April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

I play puff fast ish

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Derf.MW April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Yikes you can't just skim over mangos puff like that, he reinvented the character and was the one who first pushed her into high tier. He switched characters after he was already best in the world and still pulled her out to beat Armada at the first Genesis.
He dominated hbox in the ditto for years too.
Obviously that style is completely outdated at this point, but it's important in understanding the history of puff.

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Catseman April 30, 2019 - 11:59 pm

Puff is boring? Says people who would be happy watching the same two or three characters dash around slapping eachother for another decade.

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