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Suing Valve Over a VAC Ban: What the Jamppi Lawsuit REALLY Says

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Alright picture this: You’re 18 years old, you’re really good at CS:GO. So good you can go pro. So good a major organization puts a contract in front of you.

But then, it happens. You find out there’s a VAC banned account associated with your name. No more contract. No more career. No more CS:GO.

So what do you do? Well, after exhausting all other options… you sue Valve.

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37 comments

Colin McNeil April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Do you think Jamppi will ever be unbanned?

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skOsH April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Wait, you cant enter the pro circuit if you have cheated before?

Someone let n0thing know…lol. what a weird rule. Pretty sure all the pros at some time or another, used probably…wall hacks, to determine wallbangable spots, timings, etc., in their early days

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Sented bleach Is awesome April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

i dont think he deserves this for a moment lets say he was the one to hack his liife shouldent be effected by something he did as a minor plus he didnt hack in a pro game s he should bbe allllowed to pllay

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Manky Memes69 April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

360p oof these really are tough times

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mosesmalone28 April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

why is this 360p?

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Gowtham TR April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Lol!! "Zero tolerance policy for cheating to foster a fair game that all players will enjoy"
Please prevent first, then cure ofcourse.. can't there be simple rules to detect hackers, why wait for reports, overwatch,.. don't they enough data to learn and build on??

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Lion April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

just play valorant 4head

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TheJakeSweede April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

I think he should be able to play at majors. Valve has already shown that they are really bad when it comes to ban decisions. That is because it ia less work for them, it is easier to just let a ban be permanent, and all the things that come with that, instead of actually understanding nuance in a situation.

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Re- April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

still 360p weird champ

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duCK April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

I don't know the whole story, but can we just say valve takes this way too seriously for having a cheater infested game.

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Dem Cuzzies April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

why doesn't jamppi get his friend who got the ban on the account to testify?

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ZwamPi April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Why is this 360p?

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HadriAn April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

The millions of emails Valve will get from people asking to unban their account bc they weren't the one playing is worth more than this guy's career apparently. I don't think Valve has ever unbanned someone for any reason other than a false positive. I'm guessing they want to keep it that way.

Maybe the way Riot does things will change Valve's opinion on this if Valorant's esport scene gets big?

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Xavier April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

360p

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Jyyy 777 April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Welp time to go pro in valorant then jamppi

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Dark April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Were gonna raid valve in 2021

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i2Shea April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Who is the guy with the creepy stash

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Valamesh April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Only in 360p?

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Nate W April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Poor kid. All he wants to do is hack but VAC is stopping him

/s

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Vivek Krishnaa.B civil2016 April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Saw playing Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney, when this happened

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DeeRL April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

This sort of scenario is the same as a 20 yr old not being able to get a job because they stole some lollies when they were a child. It's treating someone like a criminal because they decided to get pissed off and download some cheats to a game they paid for. Getting banned is 1 thing but having it affect your career is completely ridiculous and valve should lose this court case because they shouldn't have the right to treat an adult as a criminal for something they did that isn't even against the law as a minor.

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PlayLove April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

only if they did so much to ban the actual MM hackers. A hacker cheats and brings new account and cheats again. Why not ban that hacker like you banned this guy?

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hanslhansl April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

I don't think that the question should be whether valve will unban him. Either the judge believes the kid or he/she doesn't. Maybe even the few sentences of the Finnish law that were shown are enough for him to win the lawsuit. And if he wins valve must unban him or at least let him participate in majors. It's not like valve wouldn't be forced to. And additionally to that they might have to pay a pretty big fine.

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momo71 April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Bro, he explained this whole thing in Finnish in his stream a couple days back. What he said was that suing Valve and going to court was never an option, the suing Valve part is to get their attention, to talk to them directly. After many failed attempts, this is the last attempt to get their attention.

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Gaben Newell April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

The thing is, regardless of who was using the account, you'd still be banned if VAC has detected a cheat or you've been Overwatch banned. Also, his account will not be VAC banned due to selling or giving away digital or retail copies of CS:GO. If his phone number was used on his friend's account, then his account will also be VAC banned as stated on VAC FAQ. Lastly, Valve is firm in its policy. If they are to let loose just a single individual, then those who where also VAC banned would also ask for their VAC to be lifted. So your statement as being unfair, no it's not. They are only fair to the community and those players who are playing the game legitimately.

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Дмитрий Грязнов April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

This is Vasya. Vasya MAY HAVE used CS pirated NOSTEAM versions for his LAN parties. Right now Vasya is a happily married man with a job of his dreams.
This is Jamppi. Jamppi wanted to feel superior to Vasya, so he always payed properly for everything. Right now Jamppi is scrambling to save his dream career from premature termination.
Don't be like Jamppi. Good deeds never go unpunished.

[Seriously, this aspect of a person allegedly being punished for doing things properly is what makes the situation so messed up. My personal takeaway is that you don't need to be a criminal to prefer cash/bitcoin for transactions.]

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killian April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Didnt n0thing cheat a while ago too? why did nothing happen to him.

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Michal Korenko April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Every pro team should strike by not attending the Rio major in November or something similar so Valve will finally realize

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Jonathan April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

should just drop cs and go pro in valorant

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104de April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Wait so lets say that I'm going pro in csgo. And I have cheated on csgo before. (Yes I actually did xd)
But I havent cheated in about 4 years and would never touch i cheat client again.
Wouldn't I be able to play csgo professionaly then? is all orgs like this?

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tekincan20 April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

on the last 2 or 3 videos you guys keep repeating things you say and its iritating i hope you will fix it. keep it up i love the videos tho

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InfiniteJaze April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

6:25 I'm pretty sure we can't enjoy csgo competitive matchmakings anymore since the "VAC" is supposedly gnna ban all cheaters and yet they don't do that. Even jampi which didn't even cheat. Bruhhhh

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Blue Prince April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

This is why you should not install those word.exe in CSGo to be PRO wanna be like FORSAKEN. "why ur so bad" VAC Ban GG mate.

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the a340 guy April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

My first account also got banned . They were many expensive skins . It got hacked and that got vac banned . My money went forever

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hella_weak April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

360p?

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DJ StaRyu April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

"to foster a fair game that all players will enjoy." then why is your anti-cheat so bad valve? why dont you force players to download an anti-cheat like faceit and esea? you can if you want to. I have NO idea why u just dont do that. it would almost instantly force a lot of cheating services out of business because they cant currently provide cheating services on faceit and esea. i swear half the playerbase is fuckin cheating and are getting away with it cos the report system sucks.

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Maxime Hébert April 8, 2020 - 1:35 pm

Imagine of he wins the lawsuit and then go pro on valorant. 😂

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